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BONACCI STANDING IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE IN COLORADO, WHERE THEY KEPT KIDS IN CAGES.   PAUL BONACCI, JIMMY GIBSON, ROY STEPHENS, PAUL SPARROW (AMW PRODUCER) & FILM CREW WERE ON THIS TRIP.


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I think i have found the house it is north of Buena Vista Colorado somewhere off of county road 371 Here is a map of the elephant rock Paul said that you can see it from the house

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Paul did say that you follow the long road along the river too.

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Google Earth might have a satellite photo of the place.

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yes the river paul mentioned is the arkansas river its the river on the map next to the rail road tracks follow county road 371 north of buena vista it parallels the highway 24 and crosses the arkansas river exactly like paul described  the red mark a is elephant rock paul said you can see it from the house. ive looked at google earth and there are a few houses but its hard to tell which one it is i know someone that lives in littleton colorado that can go there and find it maybe

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Does anyone know about or of Registered member Colorado 1949?
Maybe he/she might be in the area.

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Im gambling on the property with the half moon driveway if you look at where Paul is standing in the pic.


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Its the one with the half moon drvwy.

Jimmy

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(Sold by) HOLLAND RICHARD & KELLY (To)
FOSTER COLLETTE,WEBSTER RICHARD & BOND S (in 1996)

32613 CR371 Buena Vista


sorry I cant go back any farther.


FOSTER COLLETTE,WEBSTER RICHARD & BOND S (1996)


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Half moon works for me. Can Google get any closer?
Paul Bonacci may be standing in that driveway.

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32613 County Road 371
Buena Vista, CO 81211
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Bingo, I'd say.

32613 County Road 371, Buena Vista CO - Google Maps


Map of 32613 County Road 371 Buena Vista, CO by MapQuest
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32613 CR371 Buena Vista Colorado.
Thanks Capt can you get any more records from the 1970s and 80s i knew you would find it when we first started looking i will try to find it i know someone that might try to go out there and take pictures of the house its not too far



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(Sold by) HOLLAND RICHARD & KELLY (To)
FOSTER COLLETTE,WEBSTER RICHARD & BOND S (in 1996)

32613 CR371 Buena Vista


sorry I cant go back any farther.


FOSTER COLLETTE,WEBSTER RICHARD & BOND S (1996)







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32613 CR371 Buena Vista Colorado.
Thanks Capt can you get any more records from the 1970s and 80s i knew you would find it when we first started looking i will try to find it i know someone that might try to go out there and take pictures of the house its not too far



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I would be quite curious if windows on the outside of the house, could be matched up by size and height to the windows from this room.


http://www.franklinfiles.net/download.spark?ID=260420&forumID=120661



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Map of [31010-31035] Elephant Rock Ln Buena Vista, CO by MapQuest
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Map of [31010-31035] Elephant Rock Ln Buena Vista, CO by MapQuest
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Note proximity of Country Road 371

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I doubt pictures would be helpful.  What I would like to see is someone research farther back for owners at the courthouse. On line is limited. The apn is available also.

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Walter this is elephant rock road it is close to elephant rock the rock formation on the map i posted with the letter a is elephant rock Paul said you can see it from the house its a big rock off the highway 371 also if you go north on highway 371 you will pass through some old train tunnels

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Map of [31010-31035] Elephant Rock Ln Buena Vista, CO by MapQuest
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Map of [31010-31035] Elephant Rock Ln Buena Vista, CO by MapQuest
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Note proximity of Country Road 371







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is this the house this is the closest picture you can zoom into


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is this the house this is the closest picture you can zoom into



I couldn't even get that close. Mapquest said a closeup wasn't yet available. I think someone needs to take a drive along Country Road 371, looking for the house Paul Bonacci is standing in front of. Some digital pics would be great.




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Walter wrote:

rbeck wrote:

is this the house this is the closest picture you can zoom into



I couldn't even get that close. Mapquest said a closeup wasn't yet available. I think someone needs to take a drive along Country Road 371, looking for the house Paul Bonacci is standing in front of. Some digital pics would be great.




Here's the link. Use the mouse to move around the area.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=32613+County+Road+371,+Buena+Vista,+Chaffee,+Colorado+81211&sll=32.842674,-95.712891&sspn=24.551329,36.5625&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FbloUQIdXjes-Q&split=0&ll=38.891166,-106.152391&spn=0.002789,0.004463&t=h&z=17




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i emailed someone yesterday that lives in littleton colorado they were going to go there they want to be anonymous

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Good work Ricky, i did see on google earth where you can look at points of interest and the tunnel maybe Paul spoke of.


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same view 1999.jpg
Similar view, 1999 image



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House view, 1999 image




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(Sold by) HOLLAND RICHARD & KELLY (To)
FOSTER COLLETTE,WEBSTER RICHARD & BOND S (in 1996)

32613 CR371 Buena Vista


sorry I cant go back any farther.


FOSTER COLLETTE,WEBSTER RICHARD & BOND S (1996)


Maybe you could find some info here:

http://chaffee.visualgov.com/Results.aspx?StreetNumber=&StreetName=county+road+371+3&RollType=All&TaxYear=0&SearchType=0



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http://annex.chaffeecounty.org/assessorsearch/PropertyProfile.aspx?ParcelNumber=R316130200822

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Parcel says construction year is 1997, time frame does not allow this to be the property unless there has been a new dwelling constructed.

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Parcel says construction year is 1997, time frame does not allow this to be the property unless there has been a new dwelling constructed.



I think it would be worthwhile to research the other APN's along CR371.  Addresses in google or many other mapping sites are seldom very accurate, so the address could be off.  Same problems come up with GPS maps.



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Referencing to the cordinates as shown at the bottom of the pictures should be more accurate. Due to no plot maps from the county it makes it difficult to know the correct APN.

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1997 could just be the last improvement made to the house and not the original year built.

Also, on the USGS web site for the specific address, here are the coordinates:

Lat 38.8896595      /    38 degrees 53' 22"
Lon -106.1541314  /    -106 degrees 09' 14"


http://edcsns17.cr.usgs.gov/EarthExplorer/

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Anonymous wrote:

1997 could just be the last improvement made to the house and not the original year built.

This is the conclusion I reached also. We need info from the 80s.

Also, on the USGS web site for the specific address, here are the coordinates:

Lat 38.8896595      /    38 degrees 53' 22"
Lon -106.1541314  /    -106 degrees 09' 14"


http://edcsns17.cr.usgs.gov/EarthExplorer/



http://edcsns17.cr.usgs.gov/helpdocs/tutorial/EE_tutorial.pdf





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I see Buena Vista has a prison.
http://thinkoutsidethecage2.blogspot.com/2008/04/prison-saddle-shop.html

Saturday, April 05, 2008

Prison Saddle Shop

BUENA VISTA - As he walks through the saddle shop at the Buena Vista Correctional Facility, Duncan Clark says he has no reason to be worried. I then ask him if we should be worried.

"Well, over 450 of the tools in here are 'Class A,' or considered to be weapons," he said.

There are blades, knives, and all sorts of things you would never expect to see in a prison. Clark then told us, "My feeling is, if all I did was worry what (the prisoners) were doing behind my back, none of this work would ever get done."

There, he says, lies all the proof he needs that the workers in this saddle shop are learning more than just how to manufacture saddles.

"They want stuff to go out of here right, the first time," Clark said.

He has run the shop for more than six years now.

There are 31 inmates currently working in this shop inside the prison. Two staff members, including Clark, supervise their work.

They can turn out close to 50 saddles a week. Their saddles go to Colorado Saddlery in Denver.

The prisoners will tell you: this is likely the most coveted job in the state's prison system. The fact that they all make minimum wage certainly doesn't hurt. Sixty-cents-a-day is the prison job norm.

"We know what we've got going on in here, and we know if at any time we decide to mess with that, it can be taken away from us," said Nathan Highline.
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http://www.buenavistacolorado.org/misc.htm

The complex was originally opened in 1892 as the Colorado State Reformatory (CSR), a facility for juvenile offenders. The reformatory was built in 1891 by 37 inmates from the Colorado State Penitentiary. During the early years, all able-bodied inmates worked primarily in ranching assignments on the 1,000 acres appropriated to the reformatory. By 1922, CSR housed 209 boys in a facility designed for 106. A small medical unit was built in 1920 and in 1947 an academic school program was inaugurated.

The reformatory evolved from a juvenile facility to a medium custody adult prison in 1978 and was renamed Buena Vista Correctional Facility. A modular component was added in 1984 and a boot camp facility in 1991. It was renamed the Buena Vista Correctional Complex (BVCC) in 1999 as a result of its multi custody status. Today, the BVCC is one of the state's largest correctional facilities with a capacity of 1,259. The complex is approximately 65% double bunked.


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There was, at least until 1978, a community of people in Buena Vista, trained to incarcerate, control, medicate, and even educate undisciplined BOYS.
(Not to mention caging them.)

Coincidence. Not exactly Offut, but, will it do? At least for inspiration?



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One thing we know for a fact the house was there long before 1997. Since Paul was there in 1992. By the way the house was a mess inside. Dont ask me how I know I just do.

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Thanks for clearing that up, Paul.  And I must say what a pleasure it is to have you here.  Much of what we know about the Franklin case is based on your testimony and you can help us seperate the truth from the nonsense.

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Mostappreciated.  Thanks for the info.

Best Wishes.

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Paul, in the second pic are you wearing a Power Team t-shirt?

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Hello Paul!

I just found you on the board, I've been away for awhile. 

Just wanted you to know you are a hero in the groups that I educate on this toxic topic. 

I always wanted to say "thank you" Paul, for all you have done to try and help.

So happy to see you here!


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Does anyone know what date Paul Bonacci took the Americas Most Wanted crew to Colorado and what dates did the five Americas Most wanted videos aired on tv? was it 1993? what is the month?

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confidence or trust in a person or thing.....3. Rare.

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I THOUGHT PAUL BONNACI WAS DEAD?
WHY IS HE WRITING ON THIS FORUM IF HES DEAD?


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I THOUGHT PAUL BONNACI WAS DEAD?
WHY IS HE WRITING ON THIS FORUM IF HES DEAD?





SORRY THAT WAS TROY BONER
GOT MIXED UP BECAUSE THEY BOTH GOT MILLIONS IN A LAWSUIT?

I THOUGHT IT WAS ONLY TROY BONER GOT MILLIONS OF PEICES OF PAPER?
IS TROY "BONER" A REAL NAME OR WAS IT MADE UP FOR PRVIACY?
IF IT WAS MADE UP FOR PRIVACY WHY PICK "BONER"?

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Bonacci did not receive the one million dollars awarded to him via the civil lawsuit he brought against Larry King.


Bonacci won that case....it should be brought out to also expose Barney Frank!

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Barney Dog was exposed in 1978 then again in 1985 and then again in 1989.

look where he is now.

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Troy Boner was his real name. He did not win any lawsuits. Troy died a couple of years ago.

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http://www.buenavistacolorado.org/misc.htm

The complex was originally opened in 1892 as the Colorado State Reformatory (CSR), a facility for juvenile offenders. The reformatory was built in 1891 by 37 inmates from the Colorado State Penitentiary. During the early years, all able-bodied inmates worked primarily in ranching assignments on the 1,000 acres appropriated to the reformatory. By 1922, CSR housed 209 boys in a facility designed for 106. A small medical unit was built in 1920 and in 1947 an academic school program was inaugurated.

The reformatory evolved from a juvenile facility to a medium custody adult prison in 1978 and was renamed Buena Vista Correctional Facility. A modular component was added in 1984 and a boot camp facility in 1991. It was renamed the Buena Vista Correctional Complex (BVCC) in 1999 as a result of its multi custody status. Today, the BVCC is one of the state's largest correctional facilities with a capacity of 1,259. The complex is approximately 65% double bunked.


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There was, at least until 1978, a community of people in Buena Vista, trained to incarcerate, control, medicate, and even educate undisciplined BOYS.
(Not to mention caging them.)

Coincidence. Not exactly Offut, but, will it do? At least for inspiration?





I plugged the Buena Vista Correctional Institute address into the map and asked for instrucions from the house address to prison address.

Prison address was listed as 15125 Highway 24 & 285, Buena Vista, CO 81211


Maps & Directions

Start: 32613 County Road 371, Buena Vista, CO 81211 Change

End: US-24, Buena Vista, CO 81211 Change

Distance: 7.1 miles
Driving time: 16 minutes
View step-by-step route
Show Traffic



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1. Depart CR-371 [3.8 miles]

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2. Road name changes to N Colorado Ave [0.1 miles]

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3. Turn right onto E Arkansas St [0.2 miles]

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4. Turn left onto US-24 [2.6 miles]

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5. Turn left to stay on US-24 / US-285 [0.4 miles]

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6. Arrive at End

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If you reach CR-313, you've gone too far.

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(Sold by) HOLLAND RICHARD & KELLY (To)
FOSTER COLLETTE,WEBSTER RICHARD & BOND S (in 1996)

32613 CR371 Buena Vista


sorry I cant go back any farther.


FOSTER COLLETTE,WEBSTER RICHARD & BOND S (1996)



 





Coincidence?


http://www.locatetv.com/person/kelly-holland/282144


There is a Richard Holland who is listed on imdb as a director.



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Meenakshi108 wrote:



Anonymous wrote:


 

(Sold by) HOLLAND RICHARD & KELLY (To)
FOSTER COLLETTE,WEBSTER RICHARD & BOND S (in 1996)

32613 CR371 Buena Vista


sorry I cant go back any farther.


FOSTER COLLETTE,WEBSTER RICHARD & BOND S (1996)



 





Coincidence?


http://www.locatetv.com/person/kelly-holland/282144


There is a Richard Holland who is listed on imdb as a director.



-- Edited by MobiusMan to fix link on Sunday 25th of October 2009 06:43:17 AM

-- Edited by MobiusMan on Sunday 25th of October 2009 06:45:27 AM


Thanks for fixing that link MobiusMan. 

This just gets stranger and stranger.

Well, a Richard C. Holland Jr., 51?, (there is also a R. D. Holland Senior, 75?) that lived in Buena Vista worked for the Buena Vista Police Dept. and then became the Captain of the Chafee County Sheriff's Dept. Apparently his wife, Kelly runs a nail salon. Her family (Bainbridge) owns businesses in Salida (20 miles away). This info can be found easily on the internet as public info for those who know how to look. 

If this ISN'T the right property, it appears a cop may have owned property in the area!  If it is the right property, I'm flabberghasted and certainly this info should be investigated.

I tried to post this as a edit to my previous post (to keep paperwork to a minimum :) ) but kept getting booted. 





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I know this is a little outdated and hopefully no one minds answering my questions. How did Troy die?And also whatever Paul Bonacci replied to here,why is it removed now?

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Troy I believe died in a hospital,Alisha is good on the details. I don't think Paul's post was deleted. It is there, just a little cryptic.

This was one of the best threads on this site, BTW, and there still is much to dig through on the past owners of the property.

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