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 I went to the chat late tonight and saw all the discussion with Jimmy.   Jimmy's father's name was Richard Gibson, a CPA from  Wisconsin.   He was a very kind and tried to be helpful to Noreen. 
It was shortly after Jimmy had brought a couple friends with him to stay at his parents home for a short time.   Mr. Gibson thought one of the boys was Johnny after seeing his photo on AMW.   That is what Mr. Gibson told Noreen.   Mr. Gibson said he  "felt badly that he did not recognize Johnny while he was staying in his home, and not until after seeing the AMW show but by then Johnny had already left".  

There are a few corrections to Jimmy's statements in the chat this evening:  

1.  Noreen did not tell Jimmy that LJG did anything to neighbor children and not to trust him.  No such conversation took place.

2.  The "hobby farm" as Jimmy put it  was a farm, 40 acres, near Woodward, Iowa, which LJG & Noreen bought as an investment.  
It had one building on it and the ground was farmed in crops.   The farm was later sold after they divorced.   Noreen had been at the farm many times, it was not a secret.

3.  Johnny does visit the  Franklin Files site but unfortunately, I cannot elaborate at this time as to how this information was given to us.  It would jeopardize his safety.

4.  Jimmy likes to promote the idea that Johnny ran away.  He was kidnapped, we have an eye witness to the kidnapping.   However, this fact does not absolve LJG of any wrong doing has done regarding the case, the imposter etc.  etc.  but Jimmy is not correct on how Johnny disappeared.   

Jimmy  does command the attention of everyone in the room when he gets going. The more  attention he receives, the more of a yarn is spun  but  there is an area of truth which he did share.  The day he and LJG drove to Charlie Kerr's home near Sioux City, Iowa. 
Noreen had been working with the Country Attorney in Sioux City  for months and a surveillance was being done on Charlie Kerr.  The CA had called Noreen early one morning to tell her that the police were going to arrest Kerr that day.   LJG was at home when the call came, Noreen mentioned it to LJG, thinking she could trust her own husband.  LJG left for work, or so she thought, instead he picked up Jimmy somewhere and they drove to Sioux City,  where they pulled up to Charlies house.   LJG went inside and blew the whole investigation.  The CA. called Noreen and was absolutely livid about what transpired. 

Charlie Kerr had been identified by Bonacci & others. Apparently LJG went there to warn Charlie Kerr.  Shortly after LJG left, Kerr came running out of his house with a suit case, got in his truck and took off.   No arrest was made and the CA was so angry, he pulled out of the entire investigation.  It was a huge break that was sabotaged by LJG. 

I have met Jimmy but he probably does not remember me however, I certainly remember him.

Luke J


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Thank you for all you contribute, it is appreciated. Didn't LJG make advances to a female minor in the Gosch's former Des Moines neighborhood? I remember reading this in 'Why Johnny Can't Come Home'. However, I do understand that you have contact with Noreen and she would know what she said to Gibson. Maybe he gets some of his info from the literature about this case.(?)

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Luke, you may be able to help elaborate on this question.  If LJG went to warn Charlie Kerr of an imminent "bust,", why wouldn't the County Attorney just pick them all up for questioning, including Jimmy, at the time they observed LJG's visit?  Why would he drop the case just because his "sting" operation was foiled?  Whatever grounds the County Attorney had to pick Charlie Kerr up didn't just go out the window because he fled?  And if they saw him fleeing, why not act then?

If he was mad at an implied complicity between LJG (and in turn Noreen), why not just pick them up for questioning, and establish what the connection was?

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From Noreen's book, 'Why Johnny Can't Come Home', in the chapter titled 'John Gosch.. Johnny's Father', page 78, third paragraph:

" John began to change very rapidly, he would get up in the middle of the night and prowl... the neighborhood... walking, walking, walking.  One day I received a call from a neighbor telling me to "keep my husband at home".  The neighbor went on to say "they had been away from home the previous evening, leaving their seventeen-year-old daughter home alone.  John stopped at their home, ringing the doorbell around 1 a.m.  The girl answered the door, he asked if he could come in.  She let him in ... feeling sorry for him, thinking he just needed to talk.  Once inside the door, John began telling her how much he needed some hugs and kisses.  The girl became very upset, irate, and told him to leave or she would call her parents.  He took off and walked home". My neighbor was furious but said in view of the tragic loss they would not press any charges against him and cause me any further pain.  I talked to John about this when he returned home the next day.  His comment was, "the girl is a slut'.  This girls isn't, wasn't and never will be a "slut".  She is a wonderful person and I could understand how the mother felt.  She had been a friend of mine but that quickly ended the friendship and within three months the family moved from the neighborhood.

(I have typed this as it was written in the book.)

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The quote from Noreen's book is correct.  LJG did begin to behave in a strange manner after the kidnapping.   However,  this book was written in 2000 and Jimmy surfaced in our lives shortly after 1992.  

In clarification, Noreen did not ever discuss "her marriage" with Jimmy Gibson.  LJG may very well  have been the one to share the information with Jimmy Gibson regarding his activities.  

LJG began to live a "dual life" several years after the kidnapping of Johnny.   


Luke J

 

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Regarding the Charlie Kerr arrest which was sabotaged. There was no complicity on Noreen's part, nor was the County Attorney angry with
her.  The County Attorney was angry with LJG  for sabotaging months of
surveillance work which had been done on Kerr...but did not try to arrest
him or Jimmy that day.

As for why the County Attorney then dropped it .... there was no explanation
given at any time.   After learning of the cover up which has taken place on this case, it would not be a surprise to me if the West Des Moines Police Chief entered into the scene and stopped any further action.  It would not be the first or last time that took place in the investigation.   There were many pieces of evidence which were given to the WDMPD and it was tossed aside and nothing was done. 

Luke J

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Thanks, Luke.  Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that there was any complicity between Noreen and LJG in alerting Charlie Kerr.  It's just that if the County Attorney called Noreen back and angrily told her what LJG had just done, it's strange he would have just sat by and watch it happen.  No need to get angry, just pick Charlie, LJG, and Jimmy - all 3 - up and haul them in for questioning.  Call for back-up if necessary.  He was in his own county.  Why drop the whole thing?

We know some local investigative reporters at the Sioux City Journal.  Perhaps the former county attorney could be asked that question today. 

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